A powerful, moving video clip is on Toy Soldier’s blog today. Every one of my subscribers should take the 2 minutes out of their day to go watch it.
Warning: It has to do with rape. Female perpetrator on male survivor rape.
Yes, women can rape boys and men.
No, having an erection doesn’t mean he “wanted it”.
No, boys are not “lucky” to have their sexuality used against them by an adult they trusted.
No, male rape survivors are not “definitely” going to perpetuate acts of sexual violence or coercion against others.Yes, male rape survivors need our help, understanding, love, and acceptance just as much as any female survivor. To deny this is to be sexist, in the worst possible way.
Support male survivors here:
http://www.malesurvivor.org/us-international-resources.html
Please note that the comments section below has a number of opinions from female-on-male rape deniers and detractors. While I have not let through anything I believe could be triggering, I still advise caution for any survivors when reading these comments. Thank you.
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Tarnished Sophia 
I’m glad that someone is addressing this issue. I wish we didn’t live in a rape culture that too often fails to take sexual assault seriously when either women or men are attacked.
Agreed, though men have fewer forms of assistance at their disposal, and are generally treated as a joke rather than a victim…especially in cases where the rapist is a girlfriend or “hot” older woman.
Great find, TS. An insightful, disturbing, and moving video. His comedy cannot disguise his pain, and I found that this was consistent with the Men Are From Mars thesis, that male socialization implies that he should “solve his own problems” and “learn to deal with it.”
So tragic to see the life-long harm that such abuse to children does to them throughout their adulthood.
What struck me the most was the fact that so many of his fellow schoolboys acted as though he was lucky. It makes me wonder…did they actually believe that? Or were they also making sure that the facade didn’t collapse?
Hard to say. There is the “macho” aspect to immature male social culture, or perhaps the other boys didn’t want to appear as “wimps.” It is also possible that the victim was a more sensitive or emotionally vulnerable boy than his peers, and his teacher sensed this, explaining why she chose him as her victim.
I haven’t done any reading of substance in this topic area.
“Yes, women can rape boys and men.”
You do know that any biologist or a doctor before around 1960 and the advent of PC would laugh at such an idea?
@ThatIncel
It doesn’t matter who would laugh at it, or what their credentials were. Rape is being forced against ones will to have sexual relations, which can be penetrative or not. It is the use of someone else’s body as a tool for sexual pleasure or power without their consent. Ergo, men and boys can be raped just as women and girls can.
You will also notice that I moderated your comment to remove the assertion that would have gone against my Comments Policy of keeping this a safe space for all my readers. As I know that I have male readers who’ve been sexually abused by women in their lives, it would have been irresponsible of me to allow through your opinion. Perhaps you should watch the attached video and reconsider your stance. I understand why you might hold the view you do…however it is incorrect in the majority of cases and I vehemently disagree with it.
Ok, I’m sorry for that other part of the comment. I will also have to censor much of what I want to say now, as it would also be against the rules.
Yeah, I saw the video. It didn’t change my mind. He makes an emotional appeal but he’s arguing for something that all of history, medicine, biology, psychology and social norms thought to be a fictional concept.
i don’t know what is it with people believing that entire society suddenly got brains in 1960 and everything before was thugs beating each other with pitchforks. In fact, was is after 1960 that society started going insane. A simple proof of that is the insanity of feminists and liberals who lead this change.
I’ll stop now, I know I won’t change your mind and I just might get myself banned in the process.
But have you read any of the sex positive MRA’s, like Eivind Berge or Human Stupidity?
@ThatIncel
I have only ever banned 1 person from commenting, and that was due to repeated threats that I just got fed up with having to delete. You, on the other hand, are making an attempt at decent conversation so you would not be banned. I greatly appreciate that you are taking the time to censor your words. Thank you.
It’s okay that the video didn’t change your mind. Like I said, I have an idea of why you disagree with it, and I’m hardly one to be a “thought police”. Many people hold views that I will never agree with, but so long as they don’t *act* on them to harm others, there’s nothing to fight. But as soon as your thoughts and views are made real? You’re damn sure I’ll speak out against you.
Yes, I’m well aware that there are various areas of society that say women cannot rape men or boys, or even sexually assault them. However, I’d like to gently point out that most of these areas claim that your own issue is “fictional”/not serious as well. I’m not trying to hurt you here, just bringing up a point to think about.
I don’t believe that the 1960’s were a time of any particular greatness. Civilization is a constantly changing creature, it’s never going to be 100% good or bad.
“Yes, I’m well aware that there are various areas of society that say women cannot rape men or boys, or even sexually assault them. However, I’d like to gently point out that most of these areas claim that your own issue is “fictional”/not serious as well. I’m not trying to hurt you here, just bringing up a point to think about.”
You probably mean some feminists? I’m not sure, I am not familiar with American society a lot. Yes, I find these feminists despicable (just like any feminists) but I am forced to agree with them here.
Or did you mean some law enforcement agencies? Can’t say much about that.
However, most mainstream, liberal feminists, the one who actually hold the power, completely support the concept of female-on-male rape. There was this woman in Norway convicted of a minor suspended sentence for giving a drunk guy a blowjob.
The problem is that people believe talking about male rape by women is somehow positive and good for men. I believe this to probably be the greatest and most successful feminist hoax. Read
http://eivindberge.blogspot.com/2009/10/feminists-believe-women-can-rape-men.html
http://eivindberge.blogspot.com/2010/06/human-sexuality-illustrated.html
“I don’t believe that the 1960′s were a time of any particular greatness.”
I never said that either. I just said that’s when sanity ended and insanity started.
I was actually referring to the fact that most biologists would point out that being involuntarily celibate from sex doesn’t “harm” a person, or that the emotional/physical reactions to prolonged incel aren’t recognized as a medical condition by the vast majority of doctors. Sometimes emotions are all we have to go by, regardless of how the “authorities” of society view them.
I’m not 100% positive about how I feel about drunken sex, as I’ve never been drunk either in or out of a sexual situation. I don’t like the idea of being drunk…too many things could go wrong and I loathe the concept of losing that much control. But I don’t think it’s rape if 2 equally drunk people have sex. As for the case you cite, I don’t know if the man felt used or taken advantage of at any point, or if he made attempts to relay his concerns/feelings to said woman. If I were she, I personally wouldn’t have given him the blowjob without full consent.
I do think talking about female on male rape (as well as domestic violence and emotional/mental manipulation) is good for survivors of it. Doing so builds a community of people who acknowledge that this is a wrong that needs to be corrected, actions can be taken to ensure justice against those who abuse, and it lets survivors know they are not alone in their struggles and pain. I can say from personal experience that having even 1 person accept your story and comfort you is relief beyond imagining.
I’ll take a look at your links tomorrow, as it’s now midnight here. Have a good night.
“I was actually referring to the fact that most biologists would point out that being involuntarily celibate from sex doesn’t “harm” a person, or that the emotional/physical reactions to prolonged incel aren’t recognized as a medical condition by the vast majority of doctors. Sometimes emotions are all we have to go by, regardless of how the “authorities” of society view them.”
Well, I don’t think biologists really think about that a lot but psychiatrists do recognize that sexual and emotional deprivation leads to extreme frustration, at least in my country. I don’t know about the pseudoscientific liberal psychiatrists whose only goal is to indoctrinate though.
In any case, that can’t be compared to the fact that rape was defined differently than now before the feminist corruption of law and that this definition took anatomy, human psychology and biology into account. Unlike the current one.
Also, this comment http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/10/09/making-men-victims-victimizes-men/#comment-197862
@ThatIncel
I’ve read both of Eivind’s posts now, but disagree with them. For one thing, he equates “sex” to *only* penis in vagina (and presumably anal sex too), which discounts all other sexual acts to “not sex”. He specifically says to 1 commenter that being violated with a tongue, finger, or dildo/strap-on/object cannot be counted as rape because the penetrating item is not a penis. Thus, in his definition it is physically impossible for a woman to rape a man. I have not met many people who define sex so narrowly, as there are a multitude of ways to have sexual relations…any of which can be used abusively.
He also speaks of male sexuality as being inherently worthless, with female sexuality as being of great value. While in the strictest of biological terms (eggs are a limited resource, sperm is an unlimited resource) this is true, I take issue with it in a social sense. Eivind reduces men to their sperm, and women to their eggs, but how many people are actively thinking of their bodily resources when having sex? Perhaps a few who are having difficulty conceiving, but that’s most likely where it ends. The act of sex is not a “gift” that a woman gives to a man (except in cases of pity sex, maybe), nor is it a “gift” that men are incapable of giving. Sex with a partner *should* be good for both, be it a one night stand, a casual relationship, or a marriage. To view it as an act that is inherently female-value, male-no value is cruel to the man taking part in pleasuring his partner and discounts his own pleasure to incredibly low levels. In a social sense, male sexuality should be just as celebrated as female sexuality.
I don’t see any innate value to Joeb’s comment here. He speaks of women only being able to rape children and “weak” men…I think he’s incorrect, but even if this was not the case, so what? That’s his opinion and he’s entitled to it, but it is hardly a solid fact. Giving men and boys a voice to speak out about their abusers doesn’t victimize them. It allows them to process the feelings and work around the victim status to become survivors.
A comment further down by a commenter by the name of The First Joe is the same stance I share, if that helps. He acknowledges that an erection is not consent, and that differences in power can certainly mean that a woman could coerce a man or boy into having sex with her.
All of this is a moot point, in my opinion. If people want to say that women can’t rape men and boys, I’d greatly disagree with them especially if it degrades male sexuality into nothingness. But I see the same thing with Christians who are accepting of homosexual “civil unions” but not homosexual marriage.
If you truly have *that* much of an issue with calling female on male rape by the term “rape”…whatever. I care 1000 times more that the victims of sexual abuse get the help they need to become survivors than if everyone agrees on a single word.
Now, if someone uses the argument “men and boys can’t be raped by women” to deny said men/boys access to therapy, support groups, and other programs that would help them recover, then I have a *huge* problem with that and would fight tooth and nail against said person.
Oh, and the comments on the Spearhead also devolved into talking about how marital rape is impossible because of previous consent. This is utter crap. Just because someone deigns to have sex on Monday doesn’t mean the consent carries over to Saturday…each time is a separate occurrence, and requires new consent.
Now, hopefully if you’re married to/in a relationship with someone there is mutual love and care so they wouldn’t ever force you to have sex if you don’t wish it. But we all know that there are cases of physical abuse in committed relationships…thus, there are undoubtedly cases of sexual abuse too.
In my own experience, I have never said “no” to sex, even when on some occasions when I had a pulled muscle or a pounding headache. I wanted the sex, and was willing to put up with some discomfort to get it. My lover, on the other hand, has declined sex with me on 4 occasions: once due to an upset stomach, twice due to tiredness, and once due to a migraine. Each time he was at least partially erect before telling me he wasn’t interested, and I was quite obviously ready to go. Could I have kept touching him sexually and used his body for my own needs? Probably. But that would mean I was making my needs a higher priority than his, despite knowing that he wasn’t fully consenting due to pain/discomfort. In my mind and with the definitions I use in my life, this would have made me a rapist…and so in each of these situations I stopped touching him and took care of myself.
Consent at time A doesn’t equal consent at time B, regardless of the sexes involved or how long they’ve been together.
thatincelblogger
“You do know that any biologist or a doctor before around 1960 and the advent of PC would laugh at such an idea?”
I must disagree with you here. There are studies going back to the nineteenth century relating to female perpetration.
@Greg
Thank you. I got curious and started doing research on this myself, and what you say is true. My point still stands though; It doesn’t matter *when* the definitions changed, and older ideas are not necessarily better ideas. In fact, the more we learn about ourselves and the world in general almost always overturns previous assumptions and knowledge.
I agree 100% that sexual advances by older females in authority towards young males are a form of sexual assault and that they don’t make young men feel good in the long run; they are hurtful.
But THEY ARE NOT RAPE. Rape is a violent sexual crime; and females never rape males. Never. I AM OFFENDED by having my intelligence insulted and monkeyed with.
Calling them rape is an attempt to hide the difference between the sexes, and promote the radical feminist agenda.
I also agree 100% that some rare females have a male biased brain and some rare males have a female biased brain (as we previously discussed ).
But this brain bias does not and cannot overrule the biology of the physical body.
So we agree 2 out of 3 here.
I’m certainly open to debating numerous subjects. If such debates are deemed inappropriate for this blog, I can be reached through my website http://www.wowedbytruth.com for a private discussion.
Have a nice day/evening
KC-
Just want to clarify: What do you consider to be “violent”? Does a rape victim have to be bruised and bleeding to be a true victim in your mind? What if the perpetrator drugged them into unconsciousness, or put something in their drink to lower their typical inhibitions? Or if the rapist threatened to kill/rape a younger family member if the victim didn’t lie still and “cooperate”? Are these people not “real” rape survivors to you?
Tarnished-
I shall clarify: Using dangerous drugs on someone or making serious threats against them are also forms of assault. Hence they are forms of violent crime.
However, women do not do these things in order to get men to have sex. Hence, what I said about rape still stands. I corrected my teachers in High School about this, and I will continue to correct others in my quest to uphold the truth.
Have a nice day/evening
KC-
Thanks for clarifying. However, there are numerous men who’s personal experiences would state that these *were* required to get them to have forced sex. Ergo, you’re entitled to your opinion, but I’m going to accept the feelings/experiences of boys and men who were forced into having sex against their will and without consent.
Greg Allan, I’d like to see some of these studies and what they’re talking about.
“He also speaks of male sexuality as being inherently worthless, with female sexuality as being of great value. While in the strictest of biological terms (eggs are a limited resource, sperm is an unlimited resource) this is true, I take issue with it in a social sense. Eivind reduces men to their sperm, and women to their eggs, but how many people are actively thinking of their bodily resources when having sex? Perhaps a few who are having difficulty conceiving, but that’s most likely where it ends. The act of sex is not a “gift” that a woman gives to a man (except in cases of pity sex, maybe), nor is it a “gift” that men are incapable of giving. Sex with a partner *should* be good for both, be it a one night stand, a casual relationship, or a marriage. To view it as an act that is inherently female-value, male-no value is cruel to the man taking part in pleasuring his partner and discounts his own pleasure to incredibly low levels. In a social sense, male sexuality should be just as celebrated as female sexuality.”
This is the only part I will comment on. I disagree with everything you said in your posts here and I know this won’t change my mind but if somebody who wants to have their mind changed is reading…
1. It doesn’t matter whether people think of body resources while they have sex. What matters are how these resources affect somebody’s sexual value.
2. Male sexuality is inherently worthless, as men have unlimited sperm and are ready to sleep with almost anybody. A good example of this is this Kenyan woman http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/2014/03/12/kenyan-woman-on-a-mission-to-infect-2000-men-with-hiv
Your nice desires will never change biology.
3. I don’t see how an accurate assessment of male sexual worth somehow discounts his own pleasure.
Tarnished-
If the men who claim to have been threatened and drugged are telling the truth, women would be arrested and thrown in jail for it.
You can’t use the idea of them being too embarrassed, to support this idea. That’s because they could always complain about being drugged and threatened while leaving the sex attack part out. And you cannot suppose that 100% of these men are too embarrassed to say anything. That’s disproved by men saying something about it.
Putting knock-out drops in someone’s drink is especially dangerous; if someone is given an overdose, they could go to sleep and never wake up (die). And yet you claim that 100% of the men who claim to are so embarrassed that they would allow predators to get no punishment?
Or are you saying that 100% of 100% of police forces, judges, and lawyers are corrupt?
Without supporting evidence, these men are liars, whether to cover up for adultery, to cover up being weak-willed, or to make up stories to surreptitiously brag.
Being 46 years old, I’ve learned that truth is based on a logical trail of facts to support claims, not just hearsay or hearing something through the grapevine. Otherwise it’s like those who’ve claimed to see Bigfoot and have been experimented on by space aliens.
Logic blows the idea of female-on-male rape out of the water. Another attempt to support radical feminism bites the dust.
KC-
No, I’m not saying that 100% of male rape survivors were drugged/drunk, nor am I saying that the majority of the police force/justice system is that corrupt.
However, there are many stories from men who have been coerced into having sex, threatened with harm to themselves or their reputation, or simply been taken advantage of by an older female sexual predator. Yes, a majority of men are ashamed or embarrassed to have been used this way…the video itself makes mention of how boys/men are “lucky” to have been abused, or that the fact that they had erections/orgasms during the attack meant they actually must have “wanted it”. This same argument is used against female survivors whose bodies protected them by getting lubricated or orgasming during rape/abuse.
The human body will sometimes perform in unexpected and surprising ways to defend itself…the mind is not always in sync with the physical form. Just because a man/boy has an erection *doesn’t* mean they are consenting to sex, same as a woman/girl being wet *doesn’t* mean they are consenting to sex.
I actually don’t see many radical feminists supporting the idea of female on male rape. I’ve found much more support for survivors of this crime in mra circles, so I’m unsure of why you claim it’s a part of radfem ideology?
Tarnished-
A little confusion here.
What I’m saying is that for claims of male rape to be true, 100% of those men would have to be too embarrassed to speak about it to police. (No women are arrested or thrown in jail for it). Yet numerous men are talking about these supposed events to others who cannot do anything about it; MAKES NO SENSE.
For the cases involving drugging, which can lead to death, NO women are arrested, jailed, or sued for that, zero; MAKES NO SENSE.
The human body never performs in unexpected or surprising ways to defend itself. It always performs in expected and predictable ways. For example, we always close our eyes when sneezing. If attacked, our adrenaline and heart rates will always go up. If someone would thrust a knife towards our face, our arm would go up, we would move back, or both.
When attacked, some men’s private parts withdraw into their bodies. This compares to a dog putting its tail between its legs to protect its soft parts; they won’t extend; men’s privates won’t extend; NONSENSE (until you provide medical evidence).
Perhaps most radical feminists don’t support the idea of female-on-male rape because they know that the idea is so stupid, they might be discredited. But some support this idea to bolster that agenda; “Some people might believe anything they hear.”
If MRAs are using this idea to support their male agenda, then they have stooped to a very low position. Shame on them.
KC-
Why do you say that there are no women arrested or thrown in jail for raping or sexually abusing boys/men? There are plentiful cases of this happening, though they are rarely spoken about above the “local news” level. If you do a quick Google search for something along the lines of “woman prosecuted for sexual abuse/rape” I’m positive you will find many news articles. Same with drugging or otherwise chemically coercing.
This is untrue about the human body, as not everyone closes their eyes when sneezing. For example, I will myself not to if it happens when I’m driving. Yes, heart rate and adrenaline go up when in danger…but your body may have numerous responses (aka Fight, Flight, Faint, or Freeze).
I’ve not had any male friends who’ve spoken about their penile state when physically attacked, so I can’t talk about that. However, numerous men I personally know IRL have spoken about getting involuntary erections when embarrassed, angry, turned on, or even scared/startled. It seems that anything that causes increased bloodflow *can* potentially create an accidental and unwanted erection. I can speak of this part myself, as I’ve gotten erections when I was under stressful social situations.
Even if this wasn’t the case, men and people with male minds are very visually stimulated. An erection can certainly be forced by even a halfway attractive woman simply by being naked or partially clothed…if she weighs more, is stronger, or threatens the man she can use his involuntary erection to her advantage and use his own physical reaction against him. Again, what the body desires is *not* always in accordance with what the mind wants to have happen.
Yes, many in the mrm use this argument, and give much needed support to male rape survivors.
@ThatIncel
This is most likely a time when we’ll have to agree to disagree, as I cannot force myself to consider male sexuality (in a social sense) to be less valuable than female sexuality. In my worldview and religion there is Divine Masculine as well as Divine Feminine, one cannot exist without the other to balance it.
So, I can agree with you from a biological standpoint in that sperm is easier to produce and come by than eggs, but that is where our agreement ends.
Tarnished, you had erections? Aren’t you a woman? Did you have a sex change?
When I saw the title, I thought this would be about prison rape. Our culture is rife with “humor” based on prison rape. In just about every film or TV show in which the prospect of someone going to jail figures, there will be a “joke” about becoming “Bubba’s bitch” or similar.
@ThatIncel
No, why would I need a sex change to get erections…? I have a clitoris, don’t I? The erection of a clitoris is not visible to onlookers the way a man’s is, but I assure you they are there and are *very* noticeable to the woman!
So yes, as clits and penises are both made of the same erectile tissue and are roughly the same size overall…women get erections.
@Liz
The only reason that wasn’t my first thought is due to it being on Toy Soldier’s blog. He covers sexual abuse, but usually focuses on childhood issues. Otherwise, yeah…I could see how this would look like it references prison rape.
@ThatIncel
If you want to learn more about the clitoris and what it does/how it reacts, I’d suggest reading my post here;
https://tarnishedsophia.wordpress.com/2013/05/12/happy-international-clitoris-week/
Tarnished-
To clarify: I do NOT say that no women are apprehended for sex abuse. I’m saying that no women are apprehended for RAPE.
The man in the video and these other cases involve women guilty of SEDUCTION. Calling these cases rape insults every rape victim worldwide; it is offensive; a shameful ploy by liberals, whether they be men or women.
Again, the human body always reacts in predictable ways unless someone has a highly
unusual medical condition.
Your exclaiming that different people react differently (a.k.a. Fight, Flight, Faint, or Freeze) says nothing about the human body reacting in surprising or unusual ways. F,F,F, & F are all common responses that are well documented and known throughout the world and throughout world history.
Female erections are an unfair comparison. Penises are 100 X bigger than clitorises. This is like equating a 10 pound barbell with a 1,000 pound barbell; there is no comparison.
Although erections can possibly be forced, and some women can then overpower some men, guess what? Women just don’t do that. I have never been on guard against this type of action against me. Since I deny this possibility, and never take any precautions against it, I must be the easiest target, don’t you think?
In the 2011 New York Times Almanac, rape and sexual assault statistics are well-documented. 75% of cases are male-on-female, 25% are male-on-male, and 0% are female-on-male.
I’ve learned that in nonfiction writing, especially when someone argues a point, they must document their sources. Otherwise it has no more weight than mere opinion and hearsay.
For example, in my book I have a bibliography; my source quotes total 707. I’m still working on it; my goal is to break 1,000 in order to fully substantiate what I’m saying.
@KC
Sorry, but I disagree with just about everything you’ve said here. Rape is when someone is forced to have sex against their will, which is entirely different than seduction since that involves consent.
I don’t know what you’re talking about in regards to erections and “unfair comparisons”. Women have erections, men have erections…one is simply more visible than the other. I’d suggest that you read the link I gave to ThatIncel also. The clitoris that is commonly visible is quite literally the tip of the iceberg. The entire clitoris is roughly 7-8 inches long and extends throughout a great deal of a woman’s pelvic area. This is rather beside the point though, as ThatIncel seemed confused that women even *get* erections, which is what I was attempting to clarify for him.
Women obviously *do* do that. Go read feministcritics.org or visit Toy Soldier’s blog…there are a substantial number of commenters and articles there that document the very thing you are saying is false. I don’t take any precautions against rape either, because I’m no longer in a situation where my body can be used against me, and the vast majority of men and women do not rape. It’s easy to not be a target if no one has you in their sights.
Just because something is not reported or is under reported doesn’t mean it never happens. The overwhelming majority of media articles only focus on male-perpetrated rape, and it’s only recently that light has been shed on the idea of female pedophiles. This is not an excuse to claim they never existed before…Society simply didn’t think they were real or more than a rare pervert. Due to increased reportings, we now know better. Again, go read the sites I mentioned and you’ll see men who have been raped by cruel female predators. I assure you, they do share this world with us.
Now, you can keep posting your opinion, but I believe this conversation has gone on long enough. I’ve already allowed you more leeway than is typical of this blog, which I try to keep a safe space.
I am never going to agree with you that men and boys cannot be raped, just as you will most likely never agree with me. That is your choice, but I don’t see any reason for us to keep going back and forth with this topic.
For those asking…
http://www.female-offenders.com/bibliography.html
@K C Sunbeam…
“The man in the video and these other cases involve women guilty of SEDUCTION.”
He wasn’t a “man” at the time. You want that to be portrayed as “seduction”? Big bold capital letters doesn’t make you right I’m afraid. Folk who work in the field will often tell you that adult women engaging with adolescent boys sexually is likely to have the worst long term impact of any child sexual abuse. The attitudes of ignorant fools such as yourself is a big contributor.
“I’m saying that no women are apprehended for RAPE.”
That is largely because it’s been legal in many jurisdictions until relatively recently. What was done to me when I was seven and eight years of age was entirely legal because it was done by a woman. Of course I was merely “seduced”. As many victims have discovered police are rarely willing to even listen let alone accept a formal report.
Just what is it you don’t get about the word “rape” in statutory rape? It seems you are not interested in downplaying the rape of children by women but in actually permitting it.
“Female erections are an unfair comparison. Penises are 100 X bigger than clitorises. This is like equating a 10 pound barbell with a 1,000 pound barbell; there is no comparison.”
Not even slightly true. The clitoris is actually quite a large neural structure, the vast bulk of which is internal.
“Although erections can possibly be forced, and some women can then overpower some men, guess what? Women just don’t do that.”
Men who are hanged get erections. Men in wartime situations get erections due to fear or terror. It’s a physiological response created by changes in blood flow. By your argument any woman who produces even the slightest amount of lubrication or, heaven forbid, orgasms during even the most violent of rapes was not actually raped. She was merely seduced.
“Women just don’t do that.”
Get over this conceit because that’s all it is. Some folk, men and women alike, want what they want and will target the vulnerable to get what they want.
@Greg Allan
Thank you for lending your voice, though I pray it’s not hurting you to do so. My experiences with CSA are technically adult male on minor female…ergo, I cannot speak for cis male survivors. As much as I am trying to explain the fact that women can rape boys/men, I am not capable of being a true voice for it.
Your words are much appreciated, even as I wish they weren’t an aspect of your life.
I have always considered those who deny female on male rape to be like racist people. Ignorance based.
In the manosphere they are also referred to as White Knights.
There are plenty of cases over the years of young lads who committed suicide or attempted to after being raped by an older women.
@Anon
I couldn’t agree more. Tried to get this idea through to other commenters here…as you can see, it didn’t work.
Until the majority of both men and women learn that rape is not a female-only issue, we will have boys and men who take their lives, pursue addictions, or deny themselves companionship out of fear and undealt with trauma. I pray that during my lifetime we become sympathetic to *all* sexual abuse and rape survivors. As a CSA survivor myself, I understand how much it kills you inside to keep quiet about such harm…nobody should go through that.
Women do commit statutory rape of minors and violent attempted rape of adult males. I know.
Truth, Cill.
It’s sad that some people, including men themselves, will deny that F➡M rape can even exist. Until we break away from the belief that males are willing to have sex with *any* woman at the drop of a hat and are unable to control even an ounce of their libidos, this hurtful stance will live on.
Yes. I’m not a clockwork sex machine.
I’d like to take some of these men-in-denial and introduce them to a pack of not-to-be-denied women on a predatory hunt for sex. Some of these packs are on a feminist-inspired quest for vengeance against men in general. If the men resist, they are going to be forced. If they consent to sex then they’d better be masochists because they are going to be hurt, regardless.
…and rather than “document” my “source”, I will refer to the conviction of personal experience, and that of other boys and men in my part of the world.
That’s all the conviction needed, mate.
Correct. Honestly, I think the majority of their denial comes from the lack of sex they receive themselves…Since they don’t get sex, they think any man who declines it is either gay or a masochist. Little do they realize that men (same as women) don’t decline sex. They decline rape.
There are women who are as you state. Those who will gang up on a single man, or go after ones who are still young enough to be physically weaker, or abuse their stations of power to blackmail. Like male rapists, female ones don’t care about the thoughts or mental/physical feelings of their victims. If you get hurt…oh well. If you cry…who cares. If you orgasm…that just shows you actually wanted it (obviously untrue as it’s a protective response by the body).
Men and boys are raped just as women and girls are. Anyone who says otherwise is a troll or incapable of empathy.
Tarn, pity I can’t “Like” you in here.
Thanks, Cill.
I’ll gladly accept your verbal “like”.